The Church needs saints in today's world, especially among the lay people.
In Chicago, for example, a board of six lay people and three priests has been set up to deal with the cases.
Today, all but two of the teachers are lay people.
The other religious are lay people, not members of the clergy.
Instead, he said, the meeting should have included victims and other lay people.
How closer to God can he be than lay people?
"Then they shouldn't have left it in the hands of the lay people."
These six lay people held my fate in their hands.
None of the lay people should be church employees, the commission said.
He also promoted the role of lay people in the church.
But there were one or two times last year when it looked like I might have to lay people off.
In most European countries its much harder to lay people off.
After a year, the program was offered to the other religious orders and lay people.
They're going to try real hard not to lay people off.
However, from the second year (1997) the event was opened up to lay people as well.
As a result, many companies are now laying people off, not hiring them.
"But we understand that if your revenues are down, then you may lay people off."
Will they understand the changing roles of women and lay people?
"The economy might be getting better, but that is only because many companies are cutting costs by laying people off."
"We don't want to start laying people off now if it's all going to be worked out, but that's what it will come to eventually."