But I do want to make a substantive point about that.

Rather than join Krugman in the gutter, I will deal with his few substantive points.

He will almost always make a substantive point.

Errors by all concerned in the handling of the controversy should not obscure the substantive points at issue.

Pretty much every substantive point is wrong.

"Because you've been trying to use indignation as a debating point, instead of actually having any substantive points you might have to concede."

In addition to these substantive points, we also regarded a number of other considerations as being important.

Let us look now at some of the substantive points.

In doing so, I should like to make a few procedural and substantive points and then some concluding remarks.

When the conference committee met, the tougher House version, with all four titles, won out on most substantive points.