"We believe that the market for electronics companies is improving," he said.

By then, brokers and analysts say, the market should improve.

The integrated market should improve the efficiency of German industry, they say.

The business can make a comeback only if the market improves.

In addition, the market has improved over the last two months, Manhattan brokers say.

The market improved somewhat after that, but nevertheless closed lower.

"And even if the market never improves, we could just stay here."

When the market later improved, that program was cut back.

But then the recession hit and it was put on hold until the market improved.

Although the market is improving, there will always be problems, growers say.