And, of course, they didn't want anything to do with pop music so that was our place".
Or am I just dreaming that "pop music" was once good?
Here's a guy who was making pop music but in a way that you wouldn't hear on the radio.
These artists don't otherwise have much in common, but that's pop music for you.
If pop music sounds increasingly similar to you, fear not.
He stopped playing and recording pop music for almost 30 years, but started performing again in 2006.
"Many of the mainstream country acts are really doing pop music," he said.
Its distinctive sound can be heard on many recordings, especially pop music from the 1980s.
Even within America, cultural differences prevent pop music from catching on.
Now pop music is light entertainment; it says nothing to me about my life.
